Monday, 11 July 2011

Revisiting the Ornstein Rabbinical Line

So, are we descended from the esteemed Rabbi Judah ben Loew? I am undecided. He had a daughter, Chaya. She married someone who would lead to the Ornstein line. Also spelt Orenstein and Orenshtein (rarer). There are the Romanian Ornsteins and the Austro-Hungarian (now Ukraine) Ornstreins. Both are Galitzers, from the area of Galitia / Galicia.


The Rabbinical line

Rabbi Moses Ashkenazi Ornstein died 1726. aka Rav Joskes of Zolkiev.
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3 sons:
•Rabbi Meshullam Zalman Ashkenazi Ornstein, Av Bet Din, Pamuran / Pamoryany Galicia. He was head of the Rabbin Court.
•Rabbi MORDECHAI Ze'ev Ornstein -The Great One - HaGadol.
•Rabbi Menahem Mendel Ornstein of Zolkiev.

Middle son, had 3 sons, and 3 daughters.
•Rabbi Eliakum Aryeh Leb Ornstein
b. Satnov. Rabbi in Rohatyn, Tarygrad Oven Yashan (O-Buda-Hungary) Radivil. Brother in-law was Rav Moshe Mintz.
•Rabbi Moses YEHOSHUAH HESHEL (Herschel?) authored Yam HaTalmud. b. 1774 d. 1824.
•Rabbi Jacob Meshullam Ornstein, b. 1775 d.1839, Brody, nr Lviv / Lemburg, now Ukraine, the A-H Empire.
He married a girl who was the daughter of Reb Zvi Hirsch Wahl of Jaroslav. He was from the direct line of Judah ben Loew, aka The Maharal of Prague. He aurhored volumes of Talmudic commentry and responsa, and famously the story "Golem", and is said to have even build it out of clay and had it "possessed". Strange story. Think Shelly's Frankenstein, Isaac Asimov's I, Robot, Robocop, Terminator etc. Pinochio too!
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Rabbi Moses, the second son had one daughter, one son:
• Rav Shmuel (SAMUEL)Yaakov Ornstein, who died in Lemburg/ Lvov

Rabbi Jacob Meshullam, the third son had one son (we know of):
•Rabbi MORDECAI Zev also spelt Zvi (Wolf?) Ornstein, b. 1790, Jaroslav, d. 1837. Was Av Bet Din of Przemysl, lived in Lemburg/ Lviv/Lvov. Wrote famous responsa Yeshuas Yaakov / Yesh u'ot Ya'akob.

Rabbi MORDECAI Zev "Wolf" Ornstein married Lena Maizish (also spelt Mezes, Moses, (perhaps also Moser) had three sons:
•Yerahmiel, b ?. d. 1824, soon after father. Was a businessman.
•Rabbi Zvi HIRSH Ornstein b.? d. 1888, was Av Bet Din of Lemburg/Lviv.
He married, Channah, daughter of Reb Aryeh Leib Broda (Brody / Braude / Broady etc). She died in 1913.
•Rabbi JOSEF HIRTZ Ornstein, d. Vienna, Austria as a young man.

Which line we may hale from is perhaps a mystery, but may be clear to someone who is more in the know than myself or Steven Charter. He told me that my great grandfathers, Max /Mark's (Mordechai) father was called Ephraim (Efraim). David Austin and his younger sister Elizabeth Dunn (nee Austin) were told while growing up, from their father Lew, that their grandfather or perhaps even great grandfather was a Rabbi. Who knows? Where are the records?


Sub Liet Lew Austin, 1944

From Dan Wyman Books, New York, U.S.A...


Item 97. Nahmanides, Jacob Meshullam Ben Mordecai Zeev Ornstein, Mordecai Leib Bisliches. ספר אוצר נחמד: והוא חדושי הרמב׳׳ן על מסכת שבת אשר לא נודע לישראל מיום הכתבו עד היום הזה. SEFER OTSAR NEHMAD: VE-HU HIDUSHE HA-RAMBAN AL MASEKHET SHABAT. Pressburg: A. Shmid, 1837. Cloth, 64 leaves [i. E. 128 pages], 8vo, 24 cm. In Hebrew. SUBJECT(S): Talmud. Shabbat --Commentaries. Other Titles: Title on title page. Verso; Ozar nechmad; Hidushe ha-Ramban al Masekhet Shabat. Fair Condition. Missing Front Cover. First page torn, with writings. Wear and tear on back cover and spine. Title page. Stained pages. Some pages ripped at the bottom. Back cover with writings. We can have this rebound for you if so desired. Please ask. (k-rab-1-14) (ID #21665) $60.00.

http://www.danwymanbooks.com/HEB2.htm



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